A Conversation with William Webb Ellis by John Kiley

08:30 am on 7 September 2023

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While rugby fans around the world will be focusing on the Rugby World Cup matches and either celebrating their team's success or otherwise, questions around how the game evolved and the factors that drove this evolution will likely not be top of mind. 

After researching the topic, John Kiley discovered the accepted account of William Webb Ellis picking up the ball and running with it while appealing may not tell the full story. 

In his docudrama A Conversation with William Webb Ellis, he explores the background of the story and reveals rugby true origin story.

With Peter Hambleton and Susie Fergusson

Recorded by Phil Benge and Produced by Duncan Smith