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The chances of hiking the Lake Waikaremoana Great Walk this summer are not great with the track likely to stay closed until at least mid January next year.
It's been shut for more than a year with Tūhoe claiming crown under resourcing has made the Lake track unsafe.
Te Uru Taumatua or TUT, which looks after Te Urewera for Tūhoe is also locked in a court battle over DOC huts.
It started pulling down what it says are derelict structures, promising to replace them with better facilities, prompting a row with hunters and trampers.
Then in November last year a court ordered an immediate halt to their destruction, until the case can be fully considered.
Ko taku manuhiri inaianei Ko Tāmati Kruger, Tāmati is the chair of TUT and speaks to Lisa Owen.