Security threats to nations have changed in the technological era, something Dr Tobias Feakin knows a lot about. He's Australia's inaugural Ambassador for Cyber Affairs and Critical Technology. First appointed in 2017, his role was expanded to reflect the central place technology issues now have in geopolitics.
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He joins Kathryn to talk about his work leading Australia's whole-of-government international engagement to advance and protect Australia's national security and foreign policy.