National's boot camp plan - keeping kids from prison or ambulance at bottom of cliff?

Critics say a National Party plan to send hardened youth criminals to an army boot camp is aimed at winning votes but will never work. Canterbury University criminologist Jarrod Gilbert and the Morgan Foundation think tank's head of research Jess Berentson-Shaw discuss the policy.

Before the panel discussion, we spoke with Prime Minister Bill English about the plan. Listen via the link below.