Chris Bishop says National was being "upfront" with voters about the possibility of working with NZ First. Photo: RNZ / Samuel Rillstone
National did not give the green light to NZ First supporters when it agreed to pick up the phone to the minor party post-election, campaign chair Chris Bishop says.
The race to form the next government is shaping up to be a tighter competition than it previously seemed, with just three days left to vote.
Two polls released on Wednesday say neither Labour nor National could govern without New Zealand First.
The 1News-Verian poll puts National up 1 point, while Labour gained 2 points; ACT is down one point, the Greens are up one, and New Zealand First is steady.
Meanwhile, the Newshub Reid Research poll shows support for National dropping 4.6 percentage points, while Labour and the Greens rose, ACT was steady and NZ First on the rise.
In both polls, National and ACT cannot form a government alone, nor can an alliance between Labour, Greens and Te Pāti Māori.
National Party campaign chair Chris Bishop denied the party's support was shrinking, however, "it's going to be a tight election" which was the way MMP was designed.
"A lot will depend on turnout, which way the undecided voters break and we're just asking them to vote National."
Asked on Morning Report why the situation has changed from a month ago when NZ First was not the kingmaker, and National and ACT seemed to have the numbers to govern alone, Bishop said he disagreed - the minor party had been hovering around the 5 percent mark for some time.
He did not accept that National leader Christopher Luxon had given the green light to NZ First supporters by saying he would negotiate with its leader, Winston Peters.
Asked if National had made a strategic error regarding Peters, as some commentators have suggested, Bishop said it was better to be upfront but if it was in the national interest to approach Peters that would happen.
Told that analysis by Newsroom showed that since the announcement, NZ First's support had risen from 5 percent to 6.7 percent on average, Bishop refused to accept it was linked to Luxon's decision.
"People have overread that decision a little bit, because actually what we were doing is just making it clear and being upfront and transparent with New Zealanders about what our preferred governing arrangements were post-election."
He said even if Luxon had not decided to work with Peters, it would have continued to be a major point of interest during the campaign.
"You're kind of damned if you do or damned if you don't."
He said it was still a big "what if" that NZ First would make it into Parliament.
The reason he had raised the possibility of another election two weeks ago was that he believed there were any number of "messy" scenarios after election day that might result in uncertainty.
Bishop added no one believed Labour leader Chris Hipkins' assurance that he wouldn't deal with Peters.
He said special votes might play an important role in the election outcome.
The Port Waikato by-election on 25 November had introduced "a further wrinkle of uncertainty into all of it".
In response to a suggestion that National might need to form a coalition with NZ First and have ACT as the support partner, Bishop responded: "Let's just wait and see how people vote."
"You're kind of damned if you do or damned if you don't" National's campaign manager Chris Bishop
Voters don't want 'messiness' - Labour campaign chair
Megan Woods says Labour are seeing a surge in support in the final days of the campaign. Photo: RNZ / Nate McKinnon
Labour Party campaign chair Megan Woods said undecided voters were the key to the election outcome.
"There's a lot of them out there. We are seeing it in the polls and I can tell you we're seeing it on the doorsteps and we're seeing it on the phones."
She believed some were reconsidering their decisions in the face of "messiness" and "bad judgment" in National's ranks.
"People don't want the messy government that Chris [Bishop] has been describing."
While a New Zealand Herald poll of polls suggested a 99.8 percent chance of a change to a centre-right government, Woods refused to accept this, saying Labour was seeing a surge and would be working hard until midnight on Friday trying to convince people to support them.
She referred to the nine percent of voters who still hadn't made up their minds, as revealed in one poll.
Hipkins said months ago Labour would not work with NZ First under any circumstances. Woods was pressed on a possible rethink but maintained there were no shared values between Labour and NZ First.
"... we're seeing it on the doorsteps and we're seeing it on the phones" Labour campaign manager Megan Woods
Shaw staying positive on centre-left coalition
James Shaw is expecting a happy night for the Greens on Saturday. Photo: Andrew Dalton - TVNZ
The Greens rose by a point to 14 percent in the 1News poll and the party is up by 0.7 to 14.9 in Newshub's poll.
Co-leader James Shaw was confident that this time around the party's support would translate into votes - in contrast to some elections where support has fallen away.
He told Morning Report the Greens have a great team of volunteers and they have been receiving a good response from the public.
"I think we're going to have a great night on Saturday."
Asked about the possibility of a centre-left coalition being re-elected despite being behind in the polls, Shaw said he was keeping the faith.
In the past two elections, there had been different outcomes to what the pundits had forecast.
Shaw said there were many different ways the election could play out and he did not want to speculate on how the Greens would react to different scenarios.
He agreed the country did not want a second election, however, the Greens had helped to provide a stable government for the past six years.
"I don't know what's going to happen on election night or in the weeks afterwards but you can rely on us to be the adults in the room, no matter what happens."
Greens-co-leader James Shaw
NZ First to take silver medal?
Professor Richard Shaw Photo: RNZ / Jimmy Ellingham
Professor of politics at Massey University Richard Shaw said the most notable feature was the speed with which NZ First had moved up on ACT.
"I imagine David Seymour is feeling a little bit nervous at the moment having campaigned strongly and polled strongly for some time, that support is now dripping away, and I think what we might be looking at is ACT dropping from silver medal place down to the bronze medal place, and that would have quite significant implications for the process of government formation if that was to occur once the specials take place."
The other development was that if NZ First was removed from the equation the gap between National/ACT on the right and Labour/Greens and Te Pāti Māori on the left was also closing rapidly.
"So Winston Peters, whichever way you look at, is central to the formation of the next government."
Shaw said National's seeming loss of momentum - down 4.6 percent in the Newshub poll - must be causing unease in their camp and Luxon's strategy for dealing with Peters had backfired.
"The captain's call that he took to indicate that he would reluctantly work with New Zealand First, and the minute he did that he legitimised the intentions of those people, who might have been thinking they would quite like to go with New Zealand First but weren't sure whether or not it would be worth their while doing so.
"He gives them the green light essentially, and so that's the point in the campaign when that support starts to turn towards New Zealand First."
While there were issues around National's tax policy, "the major moment" was the Peters announcement, Shaw said.
It was not the course former leaders Bill English and Sir John Key had taken, in fact, Sir John had ruled out working with Peters during two election years.
"When Luxon doesn't do that, there's a little bit of fuzziness and a bit of a lack of clarity," Shaw said.
As for Labour's vow not to work with Peters was concerned, Shaw wasn't convinced.
He said in 1996 (the first MMP election) Peters negotiated with both major parties post-election, despite campaigning strongly against National, and then entered into an arrangement with them for a new government.
In 2017, it was clear NZ First supporters did not want to govern with Labour, however, Peters chose to align with them anyway.
"If it is absolutely on a knife-edge, if there is no clarity at the end of the government formation process, the conversations with National ... does Chris Hipkins, as the caretaker prime minister, pick up the phone and have a conversation with Peters? I don't know really ... some conversations that have been ruled out may well take place in a couple of weeks' time."
Shaw said with advance voting numbers only half of what was recorded in 2020 at this stage, there was plenty of time for people to absorb the latest poll figures and use the information to vote tactically.
"So Winston Peters whichever way you look at is central to the formation of the next government" Professor Richard Shaw
Stay up to date with Checkpoint's live election night special with Lisa Owen, Corin Dann, Jane Patterson and reporters around the country from 7pm to midnight on Saturday, running alongside live data and blogging with electorate and party vote results on RNZ's website. RNZ Asia will also be running its own live blog in Chinese.
实时更新报道， 尽在RNZ中文！ 本周六下午5点起，以中文实时追踪2023年新西兰大选。各党票数、全国选情 、计票进展与最终结果，第一手资讯尽在 www.rnz.co.nz/chinese，本周六，我们与您一同关注大选。
Then on Sunday, stay tuned for the Morning Report special from 8am to 10am, examining the results, the drama, and the changes from the night before: with polls this close, exactly who's in government will likely come down to negotiations.